Fusing images on glass using decals - help!!!!

Started by Purple Cobwebs, January 02, 2012, 03:03:19 PM

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Purple Cobwebs

My OH kindly bought me some decal paper and a book from Warm Glass for Christmas.
Well, I've made some beads, and got as far as applying my images.
Now, I'm really confused as to what schedule to use in my Paragon SC2. I want the images to fuse to the beads, but don't want my beads to slump!!!

The book just says "use any slump, tack, or full fuse firing schedule to fire on your images  657 - 804 decrees C."
It doesn't give ramp times, hold times, cool times etc...

Pleeeease, can anyone help?

(The beads I'm fusing onto were made with a Zoozi Large straight sided lentil press, and some stubby hearts to give you an idea of size)
Gaynor
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afina

Hi! Do you have a schedule for batch annealing? This should work just fine I think.
Regards, Verena
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Purple Cobwebs

Hi Verina, my batch anneal schedule only goes up to 510 degrees, whereas this book states 657 - 804 which seems scarily high!!!!
Gaynor
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Zeldazog

#3
Have you tried contacting Warm Glass to ask if you can use the decals at lower temperatures?  I am sure they will be able to tell you.

As far as I can see, the temperatures suggested all look in the region of standard fusing processes, (such as slumping, tack fuse and full fusing) - so it could be that those temperatures are suggested as suitable to do whilst doing another process (rather than having to twice fire).


Failing that, do as Verena suggests as do them at annealing temperatures.  What's the worst that can happen?  They won't fuse to the glass.  




afina

Oh, you are right! Until now I got the information to leave the bead on the mandrel, heat it up in the kiln, take it out, put it in the flame for a short time (I am talking gold decals, not dichro) and back in the kiln.
But maybe you could just adjust your batch-annealing schedule to the lowest possible temperature given (657). I would try it with a simple bead in the same glass you want to use later, as they could start slumping differently.
Regards, Verena
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Vetromagic - Frit and fritblends in COE 104 - http://shop.vetromagic.at

Lakelady

I put some black decals on beads just before Christmas - make bead and anneal as usual. Put on the transfer then back in the kiln - ramp as usual for batch anneal but to 610.  Hold for 45 mins, then ramp down and cool as usual.
Turner Rowe Glass Art


sarah t

becky at chameleon designs uses and makes transfers...dont know if they are the same re application but there is a tutorial

http://www.chameleondesigns.co.uk/transferkits.html

might help

Purple Cobwebs

Excellent thank you!
I'll try the batch anneal program but going up higher with just one bead to see what happens!!

Must admit, I was hoping that the book that came with the decals would have been a lot more explicit! The decals without book are 27.50 + vat, and with the book £42.50 + vat. So at £18 for the book, I was hoping for more detailed instructions.
Gaynor
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Lakelady

It was Becky I got mine from and what she advised - worked fine.
Turner Rowe Glass Art

awrylemming

If you do need more help, the tutorial is excellent, step by step and even I can understand it  :)

Pat from Canvey

I used 630 deg cent for paisley transfers I bought from Becky at the last Flame Off.

Purple Cobwebs

Thank you all for all of your help! My first decal bead has survived the kiln, so I'm well chuffed!!!!
I'll be brave and put the rest in on the same setting tonight.  ;D
Gaynor
Making beads, cards and jewellery to raise funds for Viva and Dr Hadwens Trust!
www.purplecobwebs.co.uk


Purple Cobwebs

Well, I bit the bullet and got Becky's tutorial, and it looks fab!!!!! Can't wait to have another try!!!  Far better than the book(let) I got with the sheets.
I've had a bit of a tutorial spending spree just lately!!!!!
Gaynor
Making beads, cards and jewellery to raise funds for Viva and Dr Hadwens Trust!
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