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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Enchanted Cobwebs on May 09, 2013, 07:27:33 PM

Title: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Enchanted Cobwebs on May 09, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
Just had the electricity and gas bill in. Nearly fell over when they say they are increasing my DD from £163 a month to £273. Now I know power has gone up but they say the consumption has increased a lot too. So, most nights I spend about 2 hours on the torch and garage, then its the hold and overnight ramp down. Anyone have an idea how much leccy a session like that would use? Not planning to stop mind, just curious!
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: June on May 09, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
Not sure but youcan get a gadget that I think you can plug yourkiln into that will tell you the actual cost. There may be a thread on this, otherwise I'm sure somebody will be along to give you a better idea.  :)
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Pat from Canvey on May 09, 2013, 07:39:15 PM
It's more likely that the increase is due to heating the house because of the bad winter we've just had.
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on May 09, 2013, 07:41:53 PM
I only do flat stuff in my cube but a full firing including a conservative anneal costs about 9p for me!  I have mine plugged in via a meter thing.
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Nicknack on May 09, 2013, 07:43:25 PM
Quote from: Pat from Canvey on May 09, 2013, 07:39:15 PM
It's more likely that the increase is due to heating the house because of the bad winter we've just had.

I agree, it's been such a long cold spring.  I've just lit the woodburner again this evening - it's much too cold to sit without it!

Nick
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Blue Box Studio on May 09, 2013, 07:47:22 PM
I checked my SC2 with a power meter and that was only costing me pennies for a full firing including a 7.5 hour garage so a bead cube should be loads less.

Actuallythe power metre has been an eye opener - I've gone mad testing everything since we got it, no longer leave the TV on standby (got a power off thing for that) or the dishwasher on after the cycle finishes - that draws a lot of current doing nothing.  I got mine from  Amazon - apparently this is it, on special offer http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plug-In-Power-and-Energy-Monitor/dp/B000Q7PJGW/ref=sr_1_3?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1368125107&sr=1-3&keywords=power+meter
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: oliver90owner on May 09, 2013, 08:43:52 PM
Lidls do them for about half the price of amazon, but not continuously on sale, of course.

They seem good enough but I have allowed the internal batteries to expire, so they reset to zero every time the mains is turned off.
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Enchanted Cobwebs on May 09, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
the boiler packed up too at the coldest time and we were 3 weeks running heat on electric so s'pose thats the main culprit, but the gas isnt cheaper to compensate!
So its not my little bead cube then thats costing me a fortune! I'm going to get one of those electric power meter things anyway and check everything

Thanks everyone
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on May 09, 2013, 09:15:37 PM
Mine allows me to plumb in the unit cost so you can press a button and it will say exactly how much it's cost!
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: ARBeads on May 09, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
When we checked ours a few years back the fridge was the culprit - we brought a super duper Fridge freezer +AAA rated that paid for itself, in electricity saved, in the first year.
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: SilverGems89 on May 09, 2013, 09:38:37 PM
I'd love to know how much a full fuse schedule costs in a KC Ace or SC2 if anyone knows?
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Sarah A on May 09, 2013, 10:18:57 PM
You can check on the controller after the program has finished how much electricity the firing used and use this to work out the cost if electricity used. I don't think they use much less than a £1 a time though if you have an oxycon and ventilation these will also be adding to your electricity bill.
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on May 09, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
I found that the units the controller told me and the units the meter told me were vastly different.  I wonder if the controller takes into account it's own use as well as the power drawn through it for the kiln?
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Zeldazog on May 09, 2013, 10:33:43 PM
As well as those plug-in meters, a lot of supplies will give you a home monitor if you ask - tells you everything that's drawing - I know it can't give you the cost of the kiln specifically, but put the monitor somwhere you will see it before bedtime, and it's a great reminder to switch everything off properly!

Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Sarah A on May 09, 2013, 10:36:22 PM
Ah that's interesting Rachel. I'll look out your a meter. Thanks

Dawn I think I have one of those somewhere I must hunt it out. I had an interview today and saw some lovely work of yours on the wall.
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on May 09, 2013, 10:39:25 PM
Quote from: Zeldazog on May 09, 2013, 10:33:43 PM
As well as those plug-in meters, a lot of supplies will give you a home monitor if you ask - tells you everything that's drawing - I know it can't give you the cost of the kiln specifically, but put the monitor somwhere you will see it before bedtime, and it's a great reminder to switch everything off properly!

I have one of them at home.... I've a feeling if I set it up at the studio, the 3 phase might blow it up!  ;D
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Zeldazog on May 09, 2013, 11:04:27 PM
Quote from: Flyingcheesetoastie on May 09, 2013, 10:39:25 PM
I have one of them at home.... I've a feeling if I set it up at the studio, the 3 phase might blow it up!  ;D

You've just reminded me that Eon told me to phone them up for a special one at the studio Rachel - We've got three phases coming in as it's an industrial unit, so the normal monitors can't monitor our whole studio usage - but they did say they have special ones to monitor three phase...
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Zeldazog on May 09, 2013, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: Sarah A on May 09, 2013, 10:36:22 PM
Dawn I think I have one of those somewhere I must hunt it out. I had an interview today and saw some lovely work of yours on the wall.

Ooooh thank you Sarah  ;D   although am curious - was it Heanor way by any chance?  Hope it was a good luck charm! x
Title: Re: How much does it cost to run a bead cube?
Post by: Zeldazog on May 09, 2013, 11:07:25 PM
Quote from: Zeldazog on May 09, 2013, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: Sarah A on May 09, 2013, 10:36:22 PM
Dawn I think I have one of those somewhere I must hunt it out. I had an interview today and saw some lovely work of yours on the wall.

Ooooh thank you Sarah  ;D   although am curious - was it Heanor way by any chance?  Hope it was a good luck charm! x

Mind you, just remembered you're a teacher aren't you Sarah?  Was it my big piece  :o  my son goes there  ;)